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Undress Jealousy to me

Published by Mess at 8:34 pm in my small space

Undress Jealousy to me

Impetuous jealousy!!!! …: Why do you dress without showing me the best thing of the others? …: Why do you destroy me and do not allow to enjoy me? …: Why in every hug that you give me, do I feel that I lose something of me? …. Why do you lie to me?, if the foreign defeat does not do to me happily … Damned jealousy that do not help me to walk … I roll about in lies and coarse histories to be better that different and … sadly I am a gap. Do not you realize that you do not provide calmness to me? perhaps do not I realize that you cheat me? … that you make me spy, cheat, lie, insult, exploit. I believe that only do you want to obtain my misfortune? mmm … jealousy, jealousy, for sister the envy, only with your presence you teach me that I am not free. ¿Por que me destruyes y no dejas disfrutarme?… ¿Por que en cada abrazo que me das, siento que pierdo algo de mi?…..¿Por que me mientes?, si el fracaso ajeno no me hace feliz… Malditos celos que no me ayudan a caminar… me revuelco en mentiras y burdas historias para ser mejor que otros y … tristemente soy un vacío. ¿No te das cuenta que no me proporcionas tranquilidad? ¿quizás no me doy cuenta yo de que me engañas?…que me haces espiar, engañar, mentir, insultar, explotar,.¿creo que solo quieres conseguir mi desdicha? mmm… celos, celos, por hermana la envidia, solo con vuestra presencia me enseñáis que no soy libre.

I suppose that it will be a delicate topic if we speak about the jealousy, you envy and so harmful conducts how are you, that of unguessed right form we consume them in the relations. It is known by all that these attitudes are components of the personality of the human being and that thanks to them also we exist and therefore we need them, perhaps the problem is when we do not control them and they destroy us simultaneously that we destroy the others.

I am going to speak only to that person who lives wrapped in such a sensation and who its world is directed and canalized by the envy towards the others, that he does not support that the others are successful in the condition that is … love, work, health and the big one etc. that it exists and that it gets in the foreign world trying to burst the foreign success … why it is unable to manage for if same its targets and why it is easier to mock at the others, at that to look for himself and to wonder: “what with it being like that?” … it is easy inside the anonymity by means of this system to be strong, but in fact it is only a wasted and empty life. An infantile behavior is the jealousy only … (since the adult controls it) Here this attitude is seen occasionally … concerning romances … ajjajajajaja if someone has more seduction capacity or of conquering, he is accused of womanizer and egoist, he is labeled by the phrase “follador of newspaper” when in fact it is only a conqueror's quality after all no woman goes with the gun in the head to the bed with anybody … (fortunately), hides in the vain, stupid and jealous conduct to dismantle the successful one. Anyway I believe … and with sadness I say it from my most absolute sincerity, that worse who spends it is who sits in its interior, the need to mock at the cost of the others to be visible, which urges to demonstrate that it is better that nobody. The jealousy is not good, they show insecurity and very much emptily, greatly, and the gap is the pain of the soul. Los celos no es más que un comportamiento infantil… (pues el adulto lo controla) Aquí se ve de vez en cuando esa actitud… en cuestión de amoríos… ajjajajajaja si alguien tiene más capacidad de seducción o de conquistar, se le acusa de mujeriego y egoísta, se le etiqueta con la frase “follador de diario” cuando en realidad solo es una cualidad de conquistador al fin y al cabo ninguna mujer va con la pistola en la cabeza a la cama con nadie… (por suerte), Se esconde en la conducta vana, necia y celosa para desmantelar al exitoso. De todas formas creo… y con tristeza lo digo desde mi más absoluta sinceridad, que quien peor lo pasa es quien siente en su interior, la necesidad de mofarse a costa de los demás para ser visible, el que apremia demostrar que es mejor que nadie. Los celos no son buenos, muestran inseguridad y mucho vacío, mucho, y el vacío es el dolor del alma.

So I propose to that person who provides herself with the threats and coarse lies … that takes the most beneficial form life for her, which discovers that in its interior also there exist the virtues that would amaze us and that would captivate us, and which does not lose the time demonstrating what we are not the others, and I looked at its innermost thoughts: what are you?

We are all mayorcitos, for knowledge that the limits of the seduction are foreseen of a lot of illusions, but it is necessary to plan a line, it is necessary to distinguish … the problem is when we are excited more of that we have to … mmm, there we are frustrated and make the others persons in charge and we are considered to be "cheated" … but …: will it be that we could neither plan the line nor measure the reality? Of all it forms and without changing the topic. The persons who are jealous and envious they hide in the stupid and spiteful vain conduct … it is the value that everyone gives to its life. Las personas que son celosas y envidiosas se esconden en la conducta vana necia y rencorosa… es el valor que cada cual le da a su vida.

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41 comments in “Undress Jealousy to me”

  1. Epsiloel 27 Ago 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I differ in some things of those that you say, at the same time that I respect them. But I see you judging carelessly, it is me who is not also anybody to judge the others. Porsupuesto I am not considered aforesaid, only I proceed to write my comment. I am thinking about understanding your article, as well as its direction, and remain with it of ”we are already mayorcitos” … and I add to be an idiot / dumb or ready / ready. Besitos Mess. Porsupuesto no me doy por aludido, solo procedo a escribir mi comentario. Creo entender tu artículo, asi como su dirección, y me quedo con lo de ” ya somos mayorcitos” …y yo añado para ser tonto/a o listo/a. Besitos Mess.

  2. messel 27 Ago 2008 at 9:46 pm

    I do not judge lightly, so as well you say, only I point at a direction ….besitos

  3. Paco Valenciael September 05, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Nice writing

  4. messel On September 06, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Paco.un I kiss.

  5. Diavolael September 09, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    When it loves itself, jealousy feels, perhaps not always but if some scraps occasionally. They can be real, it can be groundless the same gives, but this thrust in the heart appears sooner or later, of passing form or to settle indefinitely. It is known that the jealousy is born of the insecurity and from the fear of the loss and that in small doses it can be up to a powerful revitalizador of tedious relations. It gives for much the topic but I think that the feeling is like the thorn that irremediably he accompanies to the rose, it is necessary only to avoid to prick itself.Es sabido que los celos nacen de la inseguridad y del miedo a la perdida y que en pequeñas dosis puede ser hasta un potente revitalizador de relaciones tediosas.Da para mucho el tema pero considero que el sentimiento es como la espina que irremediablemente acompaña a la rosa,solo hay que evitar pincharse.
    Here there goes a story of desperate love and jealousy led to the maximum consequence.

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCxPs0-Cyg

    I hope that you should have liked.
    Besitos Mess.

  6. messel On September 09, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    When it loves itself and you feel corresponded jealousy must not feel … in the rest of the comment I am deacuerdo with you ….un besito diavola.
    PD. ufff the video ….ajjajajajajaj

  7. Diavolael September 10, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    This is a certain Mess, ”WHEN MISTRESSES AND YOU FEEL CORRESPONDID”. And if you love and do not feel correspondid@?,aunque it be. And if you love and do they love you, but to another part do they do chirivitas the eyes to him when it spends another specimen to him of good to see for its vision field and the salivas outcrop for the commissures of its mouth?.Y if you are assaulted by the doubts about the love that could profess other to you, because you see things that do not square you and is not another part sincere? … is not the jealousy normal?.Ojalá everything was white and black, to be able to distinguish well, but the real life is to any color, with all its tones and if a relation has eternal vocation, the normal thing is that it happens for all the facets, because in the only ones where the jealousy is not present they are usually at first, in that everything is guay of the paraguay and when you retire, that you are already wishing it to take it otr@ at once. In the central stage (I do not mean that one jealousy patient is the whole day) if that conflicts arise occasionally and also it is the normal thing, with that I do not mean that there do not exist relations in which the jealousy, they ever appeared but that would be exceptional, why although one feels segurisim@ if mism@,nunca it can be to 100 % segur@ of another part. To trust? YES, to be cieg@,NO.Y si amas y te aman,pero a la otra parte le hacen chirivitas los ojos cuando le pasa otro especimen de buen ver por su campo de visión y afloran las babas por las comisuras de su boca?.Y si te asaltan las dudas sobre el amor que te pueda profesar el otro,porque ves cosas que no te cuadran y la otra parte no es sincera?…No son normales los celos?.Ojalá todo fuera blanco y negro,para poder distinguir bien,pero la vida real es a todo color,con todos sus matices y si una relación tiene vocación eterna,lo normal es que pase por todas las facetas,porque en las unicas donde los celos no estan presentes suelen ser al principio,en el que todo es guay del paraguay y cuando te jubilas,que ya estas deseando que se lo lleve otr@ de una vez.En la etapa central(no quiero decir que esté uno enfermo de celos todo el dia) si que surgen conflictos de vez en cuando y además es lo normal,con eso no quiero decir que no existan relaciones en las que los celos,jamas aparecieron pero eso sería excepcional,por que aunque uno se sienta segurisim@ de si mism@,nunca puede estar al 100% segur@ de la otra parte.Confiar?SI,estar cieg@,NO.
    This irritated jealousy is another thing, like those of that of the video, capably of going so far as to kill or ill-treat psychologically other, I believe that it is necessary to treat them like what son:una illness and not demonizar to the patient and to correct it of bad person, it is a psychiatric illness like another any and these people need help, the same as a drug addict, alcoholic, ludopata … Nobody is neither good or bad completely Mess, at least I believe that.
    Besitosss.

  8. messel On September 10, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Let's detach.
    ” if you it do not feel it … this”
    - if you love and are not corresponded or not you feel as well as you would like … my dear friend. ”you are losing your valuable time” in something that this one already rotated.
    - the glance to other persons or to recognize some potential that this one should have, does not imply that I devalued the person who has next to you.
    - as for the doubts that you raise., I believe that many have dragging not recognized situations. (as for the infidelity skylight) sometimes we excuse but only of external form …: those?.siempre they are latent and they will do that we always distrust. The suspicion is a good weapon evil interprets the things., and everything has two readings..siempre estan latentes y haran que desconfiemos siempre . La desconfianza es una buena arma para mal interpretar las cosas. ,,y todo tiene dos lecturas.
    If from one himself the calmness and the safety is not born towards the others, little will be able to contribute another part. Every diavola does not share ….piensa that also we are individual and need to do things alone, not for it we stop loving our couple.
    What should do another part so that you. were sure?. How do you want that its allegiance demonstrates you?. What has to do so that you are calm.? … That you ask for condition so that everything should work?..Que ha de hacer para que estes tranquila..?…Que condicion pides para que todo funcione?
    - Not to turn the sight of you away?
    - To do an intinerario of all its acts justifying all that does?
    - to breathe only of you? ufffff. and a length etc. etc. etc. demasido complicated not? y un largo etc..etc..etc..demasido complicado no?
    And if, if it is an illness, so I raised it I was referring to
    ” jealousy that do not allow you to be happy.”
    PD. a besito girl.

  9. Diavolael September 11, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Uy Mess, I have worried since posteé this comment the time first in separating what it is habitual jealousy of the sickly jealousy and also of not entering the personal thing, in what to my life it concerns. Never I speak about me the same, not even of genres. Personally - and now if I speak of me he would not support the burden that bears a relation so absorvente and therefore, as I like my individuality space, also I leave its space to my couple, believe that it is more that I recover to keep on being one himself and to share, that to be the shade of other or vice versa. In some occasion he had me to support the sickly jealousy of other and it passes badly, very badly. Nevertheless I did not hate I nor hate this person, because she was not a bad person, only it had lacks and fears. And this way I worried (with help of a psychologist) in trying to understand the behavior of very dear someone who showed me its dark part. Presently we can look at the face with affection and maintain a lively chat.Personalmente- y ahora si hablo de mi-no soportaría el agobio que conlleva una relación tan absorvente y por lo tanto,como me gusta mi espacio de individualidad,también dejo su espacio a mi pareja,creo que es mas que sano seguir siendo uno mismo y compartir,que ser la sombra del otro o viceversa.En alguna ocasión me tocó soportar los celos enfermizos de otro y se pasa mal,muy mal.Aun así no odié ni odio a esa persona ,porque no era mala persona,solo tenía carencias y miedos.Y así me preocupé (con ayuda de un psicologo) en intentar comprender el comportamiento de alguien muy querido que me mostró su parte oscura.Hoy por hoy podemos mirarnos a la cara con afecto y mantener una charla amena.
    In what it concerns me, if … I am a little a celosilla, but not worrying at all, when the jealousy assaults me I recognize the antechamber of the rupture, it might not be with anybody in whom I did not trust, but of course … I do not embitter the life anybody.

    Only he wanted that you were changing your vision and instead of seeing the jealous one like an irate beast, see him like a person with problems.

    muacksss Mess.

  10. Epsiloel September 11, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Oh, he believed that this article had been born dead, and not, no, it has life and that is good. Diavola and Mess have given him life, very interesting!!!. I am with you Diávola. I think that when there exists a mutual love, a sincere love, of one towards other and vice versa, it does not exist looked for the foreign thing, to others or to others. Really, as Mess says, it is possible to value certain qualities of persons foreign to the couple, but Diávola goes on the other hand, I am thinking about understanding. That is to say I love you very much, I am in love / in love with you, cannot live without you, you are quite in my life, etc, etc, and drooling with some / expert and others / expert, for not deepening any more …. suspensive points.!!. Estoy contigo Diávola. Pienso que cuando existe un amor mutuo, un amor sincero, del uno hacia el otro y viceversa, no existe miradas a lo ajeno, a otros o a otras. Efectivamente, como dice Mess, se puede valorar ciertas cualidades de personas ajenas a la pareja, pero Diávola va por otro lado, creo entender. Es decir te quiero mucho, estoy enamorado/a de ti, no puedo vivir sin ti, eres todo en mi vida, etc, etc, y babeando con unos/as y otros/as, por no profundizar mas ….. puntos suspensivos.

    Or it loves itself, or does not love itself, or there is love, or there is no love … between two persons I mean. It does not cost the stained averages. I love you with madness, but if that one or that one will catch that dust would throw him. Te quiero con locura, pero si pillara aquella o aquel que polvo le echaría.

    Each one and each one is a proprietor of its freedom, to do and to undo, porsupuesto, but let's not want to dress the monkey in gypsy's suit, and justify the unjustifiable thing, to deceive ourselves ourselves.

    To finish, under me to understand, when there is a real love, only two persons exist, and she.

    I do not agree with your rhetoric Mess, for nothing, nevertheless, you know well that I respect your opinion, and that only I write to give my point of view, and that I am not an example that to continue, only contributed my sand granite.

    Saluditos.

  11. Diavolael September 11, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    The topic is complicadete Epsi and well, I think that all the loves are real (if not, one would not get into similar foul-up) until one day comes in those that some finish and others not, this way it is the life. Also I believe possibly that in a couple in which one or the two have been unfaithful, they can “to be excused” and to continue its way together and happy. It of be excusing between quotation marks, it is because also there exist couples in which the infidelities are not any problem, therefore it of “be excusing” it is relative. But the post was not going only on the jealousy in the couple love. Everything that he loves someone or to something, it is certainly afraid about losing it and in this fear the jealousy resides and what he wanted age to give a return to the topic and to see it from the perspective of the one that suffers from jealousy, if … it hurts the one that it loves, but he also is suffering. Perhaps if you saw it from this point of view you might be more comprehensive with someone like that and help him to look for solutions instead of sinking him more in the chaos.Lo de perdonarse entre comillas,es porque tambien existen parejas en las que las infidelidades no son ningún problema,por lo tanto lo de “perdonarse” es relativo.Pero el post no iba solo sobre los celos en el amor de pareja.Todo el que quiere a alguien o a algo,tiene cierto miedo a perderlo y en ese miedo residen los celos y lo que quería era dar una vuelta al tema y verlo desde la perspectiva del que padece de celos,si…hace daño al que ama,pero él también está sufriendo.Quizás si lo vierais desde este punto de vista podríais ser mas comprensivos con alguien así y ayudarle a buscar soluciones en vez de hundirle mas en el caos.

    PD:Los post they do not die if we do not allow them to die.

    Muakisss to the two!!!

  12. Epsiloel September 11, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Ahhh, jajajaja Diavo, that I leave of the topic, well, something has to do. But that difficult is this of the romances and the jealousy!!!.!!.

  13. messel On September 11, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    … Obviously he was speaking about the jealousy in general, about the damage that they cause and of the damage that one himself causes himself living in them …

  14. messel On September 11, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Are you right diavola. the jealousy not only resides in the couple ambience … the jealousy resides in one himself and for its position it gives insecurity samples (the sickly jealousy eh?) what happens that it is more "habitual" in the field sentimetal.
    .Evidentemente he was speaking about the jealousy in general, about the damage that they cause, of that one himself is caused when it is subjugated and submissively to this feeling. the difficult thing that proves disoverlos, and the gap that resides in the life of a jealous individual ….mi post, was not going to the exclusive zeal of couple like good he says that diavola … it was to the sickly zeal, without mattering in that condition they are projected.
    but I like reading to you.
    Epsi. your note to ”comment is not dead” it is difficult to give here an idea … many tones get lost and not complemetan well the ideas. (at least for me parte9. But. I believe that is retante. when it is read and is not answered … mmm much retante if
    Besitos to the two.
    PD ajjajajajaja to feel jealousy is the most normal of the world, uffff but not to control them is the worst thing.

  15. Paco Valenciael September 12, 2008 at 6:07 am

    Jealousy, that you challenge me with ideas only existing in my imagination.
    Jealousy, that for love the people die.
    Jealousy that the will of the foreign successes provoke you envy.
    Jealousy, which dignify the intelligence with egoncentrismos.
    Jealousy after all that are never only sleep of opposing ideals …

    But that blessed this Jealousy, which make us give a jump when they rub the heart to make us understand the love.

  16. Diavolael September 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Mess:si reason we have all, we are speaking about the same and in the same direction, only that from different approach, but as I am little puñetera I him amuse myself turning you to try to drive crazy … jejeje. With the shake interesting conversations have left (at least for me) and up to an ode to the jealousy for Paco gentleness.
    It is a pleasure to debate with you … muacksssssss.

  17. Epsiloel September 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Good I say. In Yahoo, in Paltalk, that is to say, in any way that implies chat, implies deprived, involve anonymity, where there could exist a cybernetic relation of friendship, of fondness ó of love between two persons (cybernetic relation, in many cases trasportados to the reality). I say. there is jealousy, it will always be, and the one that says the opposite deceives himself to the same / the same. We do not see what is doing other, and this is already a jandicap. We name the word confidence, but … the doubt always stays, always. And it is usually jealousy that derive in sickly. And it is not possible to compare with the real thing, since the real thing is clearer, it is more trasparente, speaking in general terms. Obviously there are infidelities, there is jealousy, there is of everything … skylight that if, but not as the cybernetic thing, not much less!!!. Digo…. hay celos, siempre lo habrá, y el que diga lo contrario se engaña a el mismo/a. No vemos lo que está haciendo el otro, y eso ya es un jandicap. Nombramos la palabra confianza, pero … siempre queda la duda, siempre. Y suelen ser celos que derivan en enfermizos. Y no se puede comparar con lo real, puesto que lo real está mas claro, es mas trasparente, hablando en términos generales. Evidentemente hay infidelidades, hay celos, hay de todo… claro que si, pero no en la medida de lo cibernético, ni mucho menos !!!.

    Anyhow, I think, that when one loves a person, the celillos are present. And I believe that it even is not bad that exist, always in its measurement.

    I have said, ea!!!. saludillos to cough / expert…. saludillos a tos/as

  18. messel On September 12, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Paco that you have reason … Mmm that we feel lash when the jealousy wakes up the sense of the love in us … and that sweets are when it rocks us... mmmm in the pleasure of feeling that we love.
    Diavola girl ….puedes to entertain you all that you want, is your crafty and naughty dulcura the one that does to me to wait for you ….y you will not manage to drive me to despair not, not, not jejejejejejeje.
    Epsi. jejejejejej that I will do with you? you have got involved that the this post wrapped in the couple. mmm penetrate the jealousy much further of such a relaccion … they vanish further and sedencadenan rawer feelings.
    What is the envy for you? … ”daughter given birth by the jealousy”, I want to know that it is you who think. (if you want skylight).( si quieres claro).
    PD besitos,

  19. messel On September 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Jajajajajjjajaj … I have the second part of these post, the first one is in charge only, but not if to order it to him to barran jajajaajajaja.

  20. Epsiloel September 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    What is the envy for me? “The envy is a feeling experienced by that one who wishes intensely something possessed by other. The base of the envy is the emulation to possess and not the desire to obtain of something to other, although if the object in question is the available only one the deprivation of other is a necessary consequence”. (WIKIPEDIA). That one let's say that it is a definition of the word he "envies". no? But you in your writing mix jealousy and envy: La base de la envidia es el afán de poseer y no el deseo de privar de algo al otro, aunque si el objeto en cuestión es el único disponible la privación del otro es una consecuencia necesaria”. (WIKIPEDIA). Esa digamos es una definición de la palabra “envidia”…. no? Pero tu en tu escrito mezclas celos y envidia:

    ” I am going to speak only to that person who lives wrapped in such a sensation and who its world is directed and canalized by the envy towards the others, of that he does not support that the others are successful in the condition that is … love, work, health and the big one etc. that it exists and that it gets in the foreign world trying to burst the foreign success”

    I do not have anything that to object to this paragraph, you take many reason in everything. This is an envy, really. but you move in guided personal accusations, that is to say you judge, I do not know whom, but you judge, camouflaged under a series of serpenteantes phrases. Perhaps if someone thinks about something in particular, is it for envy? or jealousy? Or simply does it give its opinion? Is it possible that so it is, does it can that not?. Or perhaps our errors or wise moves do we try to remove blaming the envy?, or our frustaciones? or to defend the indefensible thing? or to make situations up? It is quite so relative … … pero te mueves en acusaciones personales dirigidas, es decir juzgas, no sé a quien, pero juzgas, camuflado bajo una serie de serpenteantes frases. Quizás si alguien opina sobre algo en concreto, es por envidia? o celos? O simplemente da su opinión? Puede que asi sea, puede que no?. O quizás nuestros errores o aciertos los intentamos disipar echandole la culpa a la envidia?, o nuestras frustaciones? o para defender lo indefendible? o para maquillar situaciones? Es todo tan relativo ……

    Anyway I do not chatter any more, that this has for length … seems.

    Besitos

  21. Diavolael September 12, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Mess … hoped that it should exasperate the second part of this post. I will train better I hope I manage to drive you to despair … jejeje.

  22. Epsiloel September 12, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    jajajaja Diavola. will we be able?

  23. Diavolael September 13, 2008 at 12:09 am

    We will be able, only if Mess leaves Epsi to himself, although it is only to begin a few laughs. But making the pranks Mess separate, your post has seemed very interesting to me and I would like reading the rest.
    Muakas.

  24. Paco Valenciael September 13, 2008 at 5:26 am

    do you know in fact that there are the jealousy and the envy?.

    It is simple

    In the love, the jealousy not supporting is alone that another person could be she itself, independently of us. there is not envied the one who loves himself, asique the envy in the best love we discard it, or stop calling it a love and him llmamos obsession, that as querais.

    In the life, the jealousy and the envy always and without escepcion are joined by them. first we envy the successes of others, then we feel jealousy for ours are not able to reach.

    Since you see the post was not so complex, it was necessary only to read what was giving us the real desire of interpreting.

    Kisses, and pardon if it was looking like an Ode to the Jealousy, but of poet I have the same that of kidling has my prick. (this is a small memory to Lorencito, which made me reflect).

  25. Diavolael September 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    I admit that I am a large-headed person … that not troublemaker eh!
    You have made me doubt my convictions and I have not had left any more remedy than me to document, thing about which I am glad, not because they make me reaffirm me in my beliefs, but because of having been wrong it would have the opportunity to correct my errors. I am grateful to you for the stimulation.
    Jealousy and envy are not the same, although they look alike and in the dictionary there are synonymous words. In psychology they it are not and as this is the science entrusted to study these emotions that can come to pathologies, I take refuge in her.

  26. Diavolael September 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    If you are interested in I connect to you some abridged articles that explain it, they are not bored but if brief.

    http://www.acosomoral.org/soc21.htm

    On the differences between jealousy and you envy.

    http://www.acosomoral.org/soc22.htm

    On the envy only. I put this one especially for you Paco, so that you understand why one day someone did mockery on your nude. In my opinion you had never to withdraw your writings. En mi opinión no debiste nunca retirar tus escritos.

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castilla_del_Pino

    East so that you know who has written these articles and heft if it is qualified or not.

  27. Diavolael September 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    To finish only Paco to say to you, that if the topic was not complex, it would not be studied in the university, inside at least four careers … do not you believe?.

  28. Paco Valenciael September 13, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    The complex thing there are the persons, not the definitions, the jealousy is not studied, but to the persons that for its psychological malformations the comvierte in pathology.

    These careers not estiduan the jealousy like matter, they study the persons who of that do a way of living wrong

    The rice, that is alone rice, The Paella is slightly complex, but not for the rice, but for the complexity of combining the rest of the ingredients.

    A besito, and it is only my way of seeing the things.

  29. Epsiloel September 14, 2008 at 10:54 am

    What one cannot is to mask frustrations shielding them in the jealousy or the envy. Also can it be … not?. “It me has gone to me badly through the fault of you envy of others, for jealousy of those”. No, it you has gone badly because you have not known, or have gone so far as where you wanted to come, and if you have come the way back has been arduous tortuously. Sometimes there are unattainable targets neither that nor the perseverance can come to them, sometimes one is assiduous and later you who gives a bad mouth flavor after the reached target.. “A mi me ha ido mal por culpa de las envidias de otros, por celos de aquellos”. No, te ha ido mal porque tu no has sabido, o has llegado donde querías llegar, y si has llegado el camino de vuelta ha sido arduo tortuoso. A veces hay objetivos inalcanzables que ni la perseverancia puede llegar a ellos, a veces se es perseverante y despues te que da un mal sabor de boca tras el objetivo alcanzado.

    Not if I am leaving of the topic, I believe that not, but it usually give very much the bad use of these words, jealousy and envy, to feel good with ourselves.

  30. Epsiloel September 14, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Only I try to give him spark to the Post, and bear in mind all the options that it is possible to present. What if I see, is to Mess in the guines of more commented Articles about Internet. Jajajajaja Mess you go wrong for having extracted such a rough topic. Ufffff, if you put the second part be able to burn Troy, jajajaja. Atréteve "cobaldeee". Jajajajaja Mess te fastidias por haber sacado un tema tan escabroso. Ufffff, si pones la segunda parte puede arder Troya, jajajaja. Atréteve “cobaldeee”.

    Hugs.

  31. messel On September 15, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Jjajajajajaj, epsi, mmm do you challenge me eh?? I will put another part if … in its moment jejejejejejej
    Anyway I believe with good says paco. that the envy is the antechamber to the jealousy if, they are joined like the reason and to the action.Que one without other one, they do not make sense, is not even started.
    Epsi.si, if, it is directed for a person especially and cremate I do not judge, only I affirm something that I see. And I am not ajjajajajaj I undressed of you envy many years ago so I do not feel this wasting time in my life, I work of another form and for other motives.
    Diavola ajjajajajajaja … I like your form to see the things. si.eres simply sensitively.
    But I did not ask. you to give me the meaning of the above mentioned feelings academicamente. not, not, I ask you to undress to me yours, what they you are born in the soul, which move you really.

  32. Elvis Franciscoel 27 Sea 2009 at 3:58 pm

    The truth, I believe that jealousy and envy are two faces of the same currency. When you have envy of someone it is because you love something or to someone that this person has.
    When you have jealousy it is because you love the person in particular. Both feelings come from the same mechanism that it has maintained to the alive and kicking human species and wriggling. The LOVE. El AMOR.
    As part of the affectionate feeling is of overvaluing the couple, which for much that we get into debt, is not not any more nor less than a person, finally more or less like all.

    I will put a pleasantry to you although it does not come to story, I have just invented it to myself.

    He was such a jealous, so jealous man, that to prevent for the nose of its orange average from breathing to others, he got into debt in inspiring first the air destined to its dear one himself.
    The poor person loved expired to a little time for excessive carbon dioxide inhalation

    Moral; if you expire do not drive.

  33. messel 29 Sea 2009 at 10:07 pm

    If, you are right, but concentrate on the cosituated one, I believe that the envy is not what different have, (as for objects or you present yourself)
    if not rather those sensations through that there live others, this sensation that it is not possible to buy, to steal, to be relaxing, to feel. to substitute, to replace, when you fix your look in this sensation and one himself sees that it is not capable of obtaining ….uuff the ready envy leading role and turns us jealous, insecure and awkward.
    When it loves itself, but it loves itself really, the jealousy do not present its weapon, why there are unnecessary.La calmness that produces to love, it does not show weakness.
    PD … The man of your pleasantry ajjajajaja alone turns out to be the others low, hence the control on its "dear one"
    PD2 …: how have you read this, of hace already … uufff it is not even known?
    A kiss.

  34. Elvis Franciscoel 30 Sea 2009 at 10:48 am

    Thanks for the kiss. The truth is that lately very few come to me.
    I think that to love induces to the fear, the overvaluation on that I commented of the dear subject, which turns into someone deified that it can leave you the change first one.
    This one is considered to be the first phase of the love that for hard fortune little. It is in this phase when if you amorcit@ he says:
    - Vámonos to see the putting sun.
    Instead of thinking that he is crazy, you say to him
    - skylight that yes, what good idea!! and without need to take overcoat that with you is enough to me ….

    Several cold later it is discovered that to see the putting sun, better you record it in video and put it then without need to get up early. It is then when the love transforms in an increase of the commitment and a decrease of the passional love, you realize that your couple takes defects as the whole world.
    If in this phase chic@ with that salt he is still dead of jealousy, better send it to therapy.
    Answering to your question, you will see I was interested by the texts that you had published the persons who answered me and this one attracted attention of me. A seductive title.

  35. messel 30 Sea 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Uy.uy, uy, I think that to love induces to the calmness of knowing that you have found the peace ….el fear it is to know, if we are capazes of loving without much ado.
    .Jajajajajajja … edges as every relaccion has a few stages, in the love (the passion) it is the first one, she does not descend, not, no, but it passes to the commitment to keep on discovering the person who has decided to share the trip in couple, next to you, that is very nice.
    That we would do without the puttings suns, which so many unforgettable moments it us has given to more of one … mmmmm
    That we would do without the moment in which we look … with so warm light.
    PD. a kiss

  36. messel 30 Sea 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Why do you see a title seductive?, will it be that in the fund we all it are?

  37. Elvis Franciscoel 31 Sea 2009 at 3:57 pm

    It looks like to me a nice, brief and highly seductive title, the unequivocal references to the sex are in both words of the title. On the one hand the nudism, the most natural thing of the world turned by art of magic (and merchandasing) in an exception quasi sinful, everything for teaches certain part of the body.
    On the other hand, the jealousy turned out from an exaggerated and insecure love preferably applied to the relations of couple.

    We all are seductive / seduce in the fund. I am a BORN seducer. These are the initials of the NATO in English and how this organization. I do not gain wars, but while the others do not find out, I will keep on being irresistible. Estas son las siglas de la OTAN en inglés y como esta organización. No gano guerras, pero mientras los demás no se enteren, seguiré siendo irresistible.

    As for it of seduced, I am easily infatuated for vocation. Thank you again for your two kisses, already I owe to you the double of kisses that again, our relation advances in geometric progression.
    :-)

  38. messel 31 Sea 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Jajjajajajjajaj your initials has made grace great to me ajajajajajja.

    We all feel the need in undressing, that nicer than raised in the seduction, and if it is naughty, much better.
    On the other hand, (and there I differ) the love is not the jealousy reason, is what happens that it is the most habitual and better well-taken thing, I think rather that it is an attitude that we use to solve what we do not accept.La question … that we manage? if with them we do and hurt.
    Everything has a limit, quite and the love must be able to respect the individual freedom … that is not synonymous of ”not to be able to love”

    PD_ Mmmmm.sin doubt I have to say to you that if, you it are.
    PD2 _ … a kiss

  39. Elvis Franciscoel April 17, 2009 at 10:49 am

    am I irresistible???:-) :-) :-)
    Will I have to spread the good piece of news between the feminine sector of the world population, to see what do they think?

    As for what do we manage with the jealousy, it is simple, the human being is based on the dissatisfaction, after everything on that the life is based, on the search of the happiness. If we were already happy from the first moment we would not invent new things, and the civilization would not prosper. We invent the fire for dissatisfaction with the cold, invent the jealousy for dissatisfaction and especially fear of which the couple realizes as we are in fact, when the couple usually loves us as we are. Inventamos el fuego por descontento con el frío, inventamos los celos por descontento y sobre todo miedo de que la pareja se dé cuenta de como somos en realidad, cuando la pareja suele querernos tal como somos.

    I will put a poetry to you:

    Today I have thought about you
    about you it was me who has thought today
    thinking about you, I thought,
    in the things that I forgot.

    I will have to return you so much kiss, three go already, now our relation progresses in arithmetical, not geometric, better progression more slowly.

    So. A kiss … with the heart.

    Does the heart have lips? Will it be a ventricular kiss?

  40. messel On April 21, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Jajjajajajajajjja.que will I do with you? The jealousy is one more feeling.
    I have to give you the account, but … the love does not boast necessary the jealousy. (jealousy slaves eh’?) I suppose that the person has a lot to do in the attitude, we are much loaded with agreeable emotions, but also, exuded of distressing sensations. ) supongo que la persona tiene mucho que ver en la actitud, vamos muy cargados de emociones agradables, pero tambien, rebosados de sensaciones angustiosas.
    Only when one himself desmerece, the fear of the loss comes, I believe that there the jealousy takes the reins. anyway, it is a necessary feeling to appreciate other … but without tackling the common sense, the reason and the restraint to be happy. that is (undoubtedly) the reason of our existence.

    PD … it is necessary to place to the heart where it pleases to one.Asi, the kiss is compensated. a besito

  41. messel On April 21, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    The human being is not based on ”the dissatisfaction”.
    In my world, perhaps a little brave, the love is a feeling that re-feeds in the aptitude to enjoy together, and not in a measurement of all that I am ready to suffer for love, and much less it is evaluated measuring and thinking that one to what I am capable of resigning for the above mentioned feeling. not even the jealousy they will give neither the value of my love, nor quality.
    The jealousy takes as a main engine the proper insecurities and not the love.

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